1 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:41,580 explore the bazaars are your e-ticket 3 00:00:47,550 --> 00:00:44,250 ride into the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:47,560 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:51,840 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:54,960 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,200 --> 00:00:57,370 cryptozoology waters as well as other 8 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:01,210 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:04,990 night last night now you are 10 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:07,210 electrifying hosts of exploring the 11 00:01:16,290 --> 00:01:12,900 bizarre Timothy Begley and Tim Schwartz 12 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:16,300 hey hey Tim don't you think we're 13 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:18,550 getting just a little too close to those 14 00:01:25,859 --> 00:01:21,940 warning signs they definitely read no 15 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:25,869 trespassing oh come on now you think the 16 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:28,000 guards here at area 51 are going to 17 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:30,100 shoot us billions it would be bad 18 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:32,410 publicity and no one would want to come 19 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:34,570 out to Rachel Nevada and business a 20 00:01:39,660 --> 00:01:36,930 little alien 21 00:01:41,219 --> 00:01:39,670 we need to storm the basin and all the 22 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:41,229 others who have come out here for this 23 00:01:45,029 --> 00:01:43,360 purpose we'll make good news we're 24 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:45,039 likely to get a lot of publicity and it 25 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:54,359 yes but if they catch us they could take 26 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:56,710 us to some underground bunker on the 27 00:02:02,070 --> 00:01:59,050 base with some hideous monsters and 28 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:02,080 maybe even giant lizard men would do 29 00:02:07,469 --> 00:02:05,110 experiments on us at the least like they 30 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:07,479 could shoot us in the ass oh my goodness 31 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:10,060 you're always so negative our guest 32 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:11,170 tonight was part of a military 33 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:14,170 experiment he says and I don't think he 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:16,060 was kidnapped by monsters but you can 35 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:18,850 never be sure if you're going to storm 36 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:20,860 area 51 or some other military 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:23,140 installation you're likely to get what 38 00:02:28,590 --> 00:02:25,810 you deserve ET monsters and all well 39 00:02:31,140 --> 00:02:28,600 okay okay but just on the safe side I 40 00:02:34,170 --> 00:02:31,150 say that we get back to this studios and 41 00:02:37,770 --> 00:02:34,180 get the scoop from our guest what it is 42 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:37,780 to be part of a real military experiment 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:40,000 well Tim how you doing out there tonight 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:42,850 in Jasper Indiana no I'm doing fantastic 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:47,410 it's back-to-school time and 46 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:51,770 lorelei is gone into seventh grade and 47 00:02:57,850 --> 00:02:55,430 now I'm free to work during the day like 48 00:03:02,530 --> 00:02:57,860 she had it God intended 49 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:02,540 well she's she's she's a one year behind 50 00:03:09,420 --> 00:03:07,010 me only I guess maybe I'll run into her 51 00:03:13,210 --> 00:03:09,430 in the the in the hallway or the 52 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:13,220 cafeteria you know I'm really excited 53 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:17,690 tonight about our show and because well 54 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:20,150 we've got a very interesting guest who's 55 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:22,910 going to come on and and real reveal 56 00:03:28,930 --> 00:03:26,090 some information that I it is almost a 57 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:28,940 an exclusive I know I realized he's been 58 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:30,770 on one or two have podcasts that 59 00:03:34,449 --> 00:03:32,810 previously but this is almost an 60 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:34,459 exclusive he's going to tell us a story 61 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:40,910 that involves is his own military the 62 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:43,010 work that he did in the military and the 63 00:03:48,190 --> 00:03:45,200 experiments that they did on on him and 64 00:03:50,620 --> 00:03:48,200 this is certainly ties in in fact I I 65 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:50,630 think we're going to include him in our 66 00:03:59,380 --> 00:03:54,110 a book that were just about finishing up 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:03:59,390 on area 51 warning keep out so why don't 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:01,610 you tell us a little bit our listeners 69 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:03,410 hear a little bit about who we're going 70 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:05,120 to be speaking to this evening so we can 71 00:04:10,270 --> 00:04:08,000 get right on with the show but 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:10,280 definitely well I'm really excited that 73 00:04:15,790 --> 00:04:13,130 we have Don Seidenberg with us tonight 74 00:04:18,070 --> 00:04:15,800 now Don was 18 years old when he 75 00:04:21,070 --> 00:04:18,080 enlisted with the United States Army in 76 00:04:23,710 --> 00:04:21,080 1954 and he spent the first three weeks 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:23,720 of his enlistment at Edwards Air Force 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:26,450 Base in California where he participated 79 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:30,050 in the testing of as he calls it a food 80 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:32,870 source that it supposedly came from a 81 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,130 UFO that crashed and or landed or 82 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:39,520 whatever in Roswell New Mexico in 1947 83 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:41,600 now I don't want to reveal too much 84 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:43,700 because we want to get in to the details 85 00:04:49,750 --> 00:04:47,600 of this on the show but John a trip our 86 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:49,760 Don attributes his good health and 87 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:52,700 continued physical prowess on he's he's 88 00:04:57,820 --> 00:04:54,830 83 and if you look him up on YouTube 89 00:04:59,550 --> 00:04:57,830 he's got some basketball videos that 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:04:59,560 will absolutely amaze you 91 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:03,730 but he says that his physical was he was 92 00:05:07,379 --> 00:05:05,680 he in the Harlem Globetrotters no wasn't 93 00:05:09,030 --> 00:05:07,389 the harrowing go jobs but he could very 94 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:09,040 well be he's that good 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:12,070 but now I gods Don says that his 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:15,010 continued physical promise he attributes 97 00:05:21,710 --> 00:05:18,970 to what happened to him in 1954 and he 98 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:21,720 was told that the military was trying to 99 00:05:27,710 --> 00:05:25,810 reproduce this serum as he calls it but 100 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:27,720 he has no idea if they were ever 101 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:30,400 successful so Don thank you very much 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:32,200 for being with us tonight on exploring 103 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:37,330 the bizarre well you know this is this 104 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:38,850 is something that really really 105 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:41,770 intrigues me you know I guess they like 106 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:44,110 everybody else I've followed the the 107 00:05:52,159 --> 00:05:47,880 Roswell love story and all the other 108 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:52,169 cases where UFOs have supposedly 109 00:05:58,409 --> 00:05:55,600 crash-landed we've had on several guests 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:05:58,419 over the years who have their own 111 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:01,690 stories to tell and uh in fact we had on 112 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:04,450 a fella not too long ago who has an 113 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:08,680 alien artifact that he found beside what 114 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:11,110 he thinks was a crashed spaceship of 115 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,930 some some sort but let's start at the 116 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:16,080 the beginning this this happened 117 00:06:20,779 --> 00:06:18,430 wouldn't it did you join the military 118 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:20,789 and what were the circumstances of that 119 00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:23,500 well I just graduated from high school 120 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:27,700 and June 1st of 1954 I enlisted in the 121 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:32,289 army and that's where it all started I 122 00:06:39,659 --> 00:06:36,370 didn't expect to be involved in a serum 123 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:39,669 study but when I was at the recruiters 124 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:41,740 office they looked at me I'm five foot 125 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:43,210 three and I'm a hundred and twenty 126 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:44,680 pounds so they thought I was just a 127 00:06:51,409 --> 00:06:49,510 giant space alien and they they asked me 128 00:06:54,779 --> 00:06:51,419 if I would be interested in this study 129 00:06:59,219 --> 00:06:54,789 and I talked it over with my dad and a 130 00:07:01,440 --> 00:06:59,229 fella from a CIC office came by and he 131 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:01,450 had all the go bucks he had all his 132 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:04,990 openness and I decided I didn't have 133 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:07,120 anything else to do so I agreed to 134 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:10,720 participate now why do you think that 135 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:13,510 they picked you for this 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:15,450 experiment I'm sure there were many 137 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:19,210 eligible young men that were joining the 138 00:07:23,070 --> 00:07:21,550 service and one would think that they 139 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:23,080 would almost do this without even 140 00:07:28,590 --> 00:07:26,590 telling you what they were you know a 141 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:28,600 planning well what do you think that 142 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:30,670 they picked you or did they ever say why 143 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:34,240 you were chosen here's the thing my dad 144 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:36,930 was a civilian employee of the 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:40,510 coordinate apples where I was going to 146 00:07:49,140 --> 00:07:46,930 sign up and of course I this depo was in 147 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:49,150 Savannah Alan oi about nine miles north 148 00:07:57,150 --> 00:07:53,290 of the town and I was in high school 149 00:07:59,460 --> 00:07:57,160 with a commanding officers daughter and 150 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,470 my dad knew the commanding officer and 151 00:08:05,850 --> 00:08:02,080 it was sort of a sort of a family family 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:05,860 thing but the reason they wanted they 153 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:09,130 wanted a person small small and physical 154 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:11,440 and that was that was me but I'm sure 155 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:13,360 they had a lot of other people but I 156 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:15,550 guess I was just at the right place or 157 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:17,860 the wrong place at the right time so 158 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:22,120 that's that's how I got started and now 159 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:25,600 the okay so you joined the service and 160 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:31,690 you were shipped out to where well the 161 00:08:40,530 --> 00:08:37,360 first the first second day it was the 162 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:40,540 second of June nationally the the 163 00:08:48,030 --> 00:08:44,400 coordinator buck and I we we got onto a 164 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:48,040 c-47 army airplane and we flew to 165 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:50,950 Edwards Air Force Base and that's where 166 00:08:58,860 --> 00:08:54,670 the study took place now what was that 167 00:09:01,560 --> 00:08:58,870 known it was that in that year was that 168 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:01,570 known as Murdock Air Force Base in those 169 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:04,330 days where had they already changed it 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:08,050 to Edwards well I don't know as far as I 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:10,450 was told that's where we were going yeah 172 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:14,290 okay and he's so okay you arrived at 173 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:17,770 Edwards and what was the procedure after 174 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:22,270 that well the next day it took us well 175 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:25,480 Edwards from Savannah is 1,500 miles so 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:26,950 the Seaport 177 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:30,130 Kovach about 180 miles an hour so we 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:33,430 stopped three times we got there in the 179 00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:38,650 morning of the 3rd and the we we just 180 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:41,080 when we landed we pulled into a hangar 181 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:45,940 and we got off the plane and the room 182 00:09:53,270 --> 00:09:50,230 where the study was taking place was in 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:53,280 the hangar or adjacent to the hangar and 184 00:10:02,720 --> 00:09:58,210 that's we went I went there and I spent 185 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:02,730 the three weeks in in that same location 186 00:10:11,730 --> 00:10:07,780 and Buck the coordinator he was like I 187 00:10:13,530 --> 00:10:11,740 say he flew with me to Edwards and we 188 00:10:19,650 --> 00:10:13,540 were together for three weeks in that 189 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:19,660 room oh okay and and how what you you 190 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:21,610 were given the Sara serum was that 191 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:24,490 something that you drank orally or was 192 00:10:32,450 --> 00:10:27,790 it put into a hypodermic needle or how 193 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:32,460 how did how did you ingest it no it was 194 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:36,910 it started out on the third and at eight 195 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:39,930 o'clock in the morning but gave me ate a 196 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:43,500 spoonful of the serum it was a two ounce 197 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:49,510 portion and he gave me one spoonful of 198 00:10:56,670 --> 00:10:54,790 the two ounce serum for the 21 21 days 199 00:10:58,950 --> 00:10:56,680 and that was the only nourishment that I 200 00:11:02,370 --> 00:10:58,960 had okay so you've got it you've got a 201 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:02,380 you got a spoonful every morning every 202 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:04,690 morning at eight o'clock yes okay okay 203 00:11:09,450 --> 00:11:07,570 can you describe to us what the serum 204 00:11:12,570 --> 00:11:09,460 look like what color it was what 205 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:12,580 consistency it was and above all else 206 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:15,460 what did it what did it taste like okay 207 00:11:21,060 --> 00:11:17,290 well first of all it didn't have a taste 208 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:21,070 and it didn't have an odor and if you if 209 00:11:26,490 --> 00:11:23,920 you go to the store and buy a bottle of 210 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:26,500 hand sanitizer if you're familiar with 211 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:31,150 that it was exactly like the texture and 212 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:32,560 thickness and everything was exactly 213 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:36,250 like a bottle of hand sanitizer and what 214 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:39,190 what uh okay so it's suppress your 215 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:40,510 hunger that it 216 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:43,570 have any other effect upon you well not 217 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:48,310 not at the time but I was sold it was 218 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:53,320 both of him a focus ingredient and 219 00:12:00,810 --> 00:11:58,000 longevity agreement because the space 220 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:00,820 aliens were any ships for a long time 221 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:05,350 and probably they didn't win for I don't 222 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:07,750 know how many hundreds or thousands of 223 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:11,200 miles yeah yeah yeah oh and they 224 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:13,090 couldn't take a lot of food with them in 225 00:12:20,810 --> 00:12:17,250 those little spaceships so I guess they 226 00:12:24,570 --> 00:12:20,820 found this this Planet X found the 227 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:24,580 secret to this serum there would that's 228 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:27,460 all they needed now 229 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:32,100 did they ever give you any history of 230 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:36,640 let's say what was the serum taken off 231 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:38,560 the craft and in Roswell did they 232 00:12:45,390 --> 00:12:42,310 describe the aliens to you or give you a 233 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:45,400 little bit more a detail on where this 234 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:48,810 particular liquid might have originated 235 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:51,960 where they came where they came across 236 00:12:59,760 --> 00:12:56,770 was the in the 1930s when when Germany 237 00:13:01,860 --> 00:12:59,770 was commissioning an interplanetary 238 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:01,870 research program where they wanted to 239 00:13:07,070 --> 00:13:04,740 make contact with other planets yes 240 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:07,080 hello we're looking for a super weapon 241 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:12,010 to win World War two and they were they 242 00:13:20,190 --> 00:13:16,950 were successful this there were two 243 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:20,200 German scientists that worked on this 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:22,810 program for quite a while and they were 245 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:25,810 able to make contact with it with this 246 00:13:35,250 --> 00:13:31,240 what they call Planet X and they tried 247 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:35,260 to get a weapon but the planet actually 248 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:38,890 refused refused any military any 249 00:13:43,860 --> 00:13:41,710 military equipment weapons and bombs and 250 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:43,870 right but they told them that they had 251 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:46,690 this this food source so they just they 252 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:49,600 were working on it and and it was you 253 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:51,490 know it's going to be a revolutionize 254 00:13:59,250 --> 00:13:54,430 system because it's going to be a 255 00:14:03,860 --> 00:13:59,260 and day thing about two ounces and I 256 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:03,870 don't know well what the ingredients was 257 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:07,000 that they had in it but it wasn't 258 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:10,120 couldn't have been that much effort to 259 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:13,000 make it and so it would revolutionize 260 00:14:27,510 --> 00:14:20,890 how you eat so they planet-x agreed to 261 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:27,520 give buck the trial and the formula to 262 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:30,730 make more of it so now you think that 263 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:33,720 you think that buck who was your 264 00:14:39,570 --> 00:14:36,910 recruitment officer or your handler 265 00:14:42,329 --> 00:14:39,580 he actually had punt he actually had 266 00:14:45,389 --> 00:14:42,339 contact with these beings well he had 267 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:45,399 contact with he had contact with the to 268 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:47,560 two scientists that were working for 269 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:54,580 Isis oh okay now yeah now did they ever 270 00:15:01,740 --> 00:14:57,010 describe but what these beings looked 271 00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:01,750 like and and was Roswell involved in 272 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:05,279 this the supposed to crash there well 273 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:08,110 there would there wasn't any there 274 00:15:16,140 --> 00:15:11,410 wasn't any physical contact it was all I 275 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:16,150 guess it was like okay so the gay in 276 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:17,680 other words they gave them they gave 277 00:15:23,070 --> 00:15:21,220 them the the the formula e lurch as 278 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:23,080 supposedly the the Germans were 279 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:24,970 channeling or getting this information 280 00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:28,000 through a number of mediums that were 281 00:15:37,579 --> 00:15:34,959 working it wasn't it wasn't a situation 282 00:15:43,050 --> 00:15:37,589 where they would have met any of the 283 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:43,060 population from Planet yeah because I 284 00:15:49,769 --> 00:15:46,930 mean according to what we know the the 285 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,779 US government and military board over a 286 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:52,240 lot of these German scientists and 287 00:15:59,310 --> 00:15:55,510 engineers including Wernher von Braun is 288 00:16:02,900 --> 00:15:59,320 part of this project a paperclip and 289 00:16:06,260 --> 00:16:02,910 they were assimilated into the into the 290 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:06,270 scientific and engineering community 291 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:08,440 here so so 292 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:11,070 how long did you end up taking the serum 293 00:16:17,790 --> 00:16:14,260 well it was the 21 days that I was at 294 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Edwards and you had you had absolutely 295 00:16:26,750 --> 00:16:20,050 no hunger at all did you did you lose 296 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:26,760 any weight no I stayed the same i my my 297 00:16:31,050 --> 00:16:29,680 activities were worth quite a bit that 298 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:31,060 was they were working me out pretty good 299 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:33,190 because they wanted to they wanted to 300 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:35,200 see exactly what what the serum was 301 00:16:42,180 --> 00:16:39,820 going to do in the long run and I had no 302 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,190 problem with what I was doing you know 303 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:44,320 we worked out four hours a day 304 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:49,810 physically and so you know it was it was 305 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:53,590 doing real good yeah Gandhi do you think 306 00:16:57,390 --> 00:16:55,330 that they were there other people are 307 00:17:00,030 --> 00:16:57,400 involved in this experiment do you think 308 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,040 they gave this serum to two other 309 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:02,320 individuals to test what their reaction 310 00:17:09,179 --> 00:17:05,140 would be compared to yours because I 311 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:09,189 mean usually if you know with medical 312 00:17:15,870 --> 00:17:12,130 people or are trying out something they 313 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:15,880 first try it out on you know rats or 314 00:17:22,439 --> 00:17:19,839 mice or or monkeys or something like 315 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:22,449 that and then they would eventually get 316 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:23,949 to the stage where they would try it out 317 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:27,010 on humans and they would do it you know 318 00:17:33,630 --> 00:17:29,650 under controlled circumstances with more 319 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:33,640 than one individual well I I think I 320 00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:37,500 think they not only did that on Planet X 321 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:41,380 but they didn't I was you know I was the 322 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:44,170 only one that I know that was taking it 323 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:47,910 once once they sent it down here but 324 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:51,490 planted exit was he planted X's the 325 00:17:59,280 --> 00:17:53,590 people had owned the spaceship that 326 00:18:03,630 --> 00:17:59,290 didn't crash but to land it in this the 327 00:18:06,330 --> 00:18:03,640 ship didn't crash and landed yeah now 328 00:18:10,020 --> 00:18:06,340 what was that what was this the the the 329 00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:10,030 the famous a case that happened in July 330 00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:14,340 of 1947 or or is this another incident 331 00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:18,070 no this is this was the so the original 332 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:21,600 this was the original Roswell 333 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,780 space landing that they they reported 334 00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:25,760 crashed 335 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:28,020 yeah because that's what it's gonna say 336 00:18:33,530 --> 00:18:31,440 we we've always been taught that the are 337 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:33,540 the object you know crashing to the site 338 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:36,810 of the the desert there and of course 339 00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:39,090 that these beings one of them may have 340 00:18:45,170 --> 00:18:42,540 survived but the the rest of them you 341 00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:45,180 know where were killed in the in the 342 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,870 crash perhaps an autopsy was performed 343 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:50,880 on them but you're you're saying in 344 00:18:55,130 --> 00:18:53,550 effect that that was a cover story that 345 00:18:58,810 --> 00:18:55,140 that's not the way they really happened 346 00:19:07,960 --> 00:18:58,820 you know what it was the the Germans 347 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:07,970 maybe made the offer to the Planet X and 348 00:19:13,910 --> 00:19:11,460 they sent the ship to Roswell they if 349 00:19:16,670 --> 00:19:13,920 they gave plan an extra coordinates for 350 00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:16,680 the ship they put the serum on it on the 351 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:19,380 ship they sent it they sent it to they 352 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:23,250 sent to Raja it landed there and Brock 353 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:27,810 my my handler he he was in charge of the 354 00:19:34,190 --> 00:19:31,650 patrol that met the ship and they were 355 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,200 going to they were going to get the 356 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:37,200 serum off the ship the ship would take 357 00:19:43,910 --> 00:19:41,520 off again go back to Planet Planet X and 358 00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:43,920 that would be it and then they would 359 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:48,060 bring me assumed Edwards test it but 360 00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:51,450 when the ship landed and the there were 361 00:19:58,670 --> 00:19:55,080 four aliens got out and they started 362 00:20:01,220 --> 00:19:58,680 unloading the serum and they're they're 363 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:01,230 breathing mechanisms their equipment 364 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:02,670 that they had to breathe 365 00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:05,400 must have malfunctions and they 366 00:20:12,890 --> 00:20:08,190 suffocated and they died there were four 367 00:20:15,470 --> 00:20:12,900 of them so so but he called up a fella 368 00:20:18,410 --> 00:20:15,480 by the name well a commanding general of 369 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:18,420 Roswell his name was Blanchard Jerry 370 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:22,320 here in general Blanchard yeah he was 371 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:25,170 commanding officer at the time and he 372 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:27,150 came out to the location they landed 373 00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:29,490 about five miles outside of Roswell 374 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:32,460 he came out and he oversaw the what was 375 00:20:37,810 --> 00:20:35,570 going on and he saw that he saw 376 00:20:40,450 --> 00:20:37,820 the ship and then of course he's 377 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:40,460 elevated my god we got we've got 378 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:43,310 ourselves a spaceship with with all 379 00:20:51,010 --> 00:20:47,770 kinds of alien technology on it which in 380 00:20:53,410 --> 00:20:51,020 current parcels book outlines exactly 381 00:20:59,410 --> 00:20:53,420 one all they got off of that thing 382 00:21:02,110 --> 00:20:59,420 well anyway buck he contacted the 383 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:02,120 Germans and told them what happened 384 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:07,750 about about the aliens dying so the 385 00:21:14,650 --> 00:21:10,130 scientists of German scientists they 386 00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:14,660 contacted they contacted the Planet X 387 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:18,440 told him what happened and Planet X said 388 00:21:23,230 --> 00:21:21,530 destroy the ship because they didn't 389 00:21:26,020 --> 00:21:23,240 want to cannibalize they didn't they 390 00:21:32,890 --> 00:21:26,030 didn't want it reversed engineered and 391 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:32,900 so the general Blanchard he had already 392 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:35,330 got it all wrapped up and got it sent 393 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:35,990 off to 394 00:21:46,930 --> 00:21:44,180 course Planet X was really mad I mean 395 00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:46,940 they didn't they didn't plan it that way 396 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:50,480 and they made some some warnings to the 397 00:21:59,260 --> 00:21:56,000 Germans about blowing earth you know all 398 00:22:01,090 --> 00:21:59,270 of the solar system and because Planet X 399 00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:01,100 supposedly I guess was about ten times 400 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:04,420 bigger than Earth so that that's then 401 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:08,690 once that it was it was like six years 402 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:11,750 well at the forty seven and then they 403 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:13,880 tested it at fifty four was the seven 404 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:16,970 years it had been frozen that the serum 405 00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:19,610 had been frozen and they didn't they 406 00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:21,560 didn't have a cast because he couldn't 407 00:22:32,290 --> 00:22:26,720 find anybody that would would volunteer 408 00:22:34,660 --> 00:22:32,300 to take this serum by mouth well I could 409 00:22:37,570 --> 00:22:34,670 I could I could understand that I mean 410 00:22:39,310 --> 00:22:37,580 if I was told that hey you know take 411 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:39,320 take some of this it comes from another 412 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:42,310 planet and I'd kind of be a you know 413 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:45,020 leery of that but there on the other 414 00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,130 hand you think that it helped with your 415 00:22:57,010 --> 00:22:51,919 over the years oh definitely definitely 416 00:23:03,310 --> 00:22:57,020 I I can IH so much differently than a 417 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:03,320 normal normal 83 year old I I don't know 418 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:06,110 my members is Curtis can be I remember 419 00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:09,410 this whole situation from all the old 65 420 00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:13,640 years of it and you see I I actually had 421 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:17,270 the the non-disclosure agreement that I 422 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:21,200 had signed and normally on disclosure 423 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:23,150 agreements don't have any expiration 424 00:23:29,310 --> 00:23:26,750 dates on there you sign it and you you 425 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:29,320 don't tell anybody anything for forever 426 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:33,640 but anyway buck he was on he took my 427 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:36,049 disclosure agreement and he put an 428 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:39,370 expiration date on of January 10th of 429 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:42,190 2016 and that's when I was 18 years old 430 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:45,460 and he said he wanted the story told 431 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,850 after I turned 80 because oh okay we're 432 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:52,240 coming into a commercial break now so 433 00:23:57,370 --> 00:23:54,890 we'll we'll be back in just a few 434 00:24:00,539 --> 00:23:57,380 minutes with a really interesting 435 00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:00,549 fascinating story being told through 436 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:02,600 probably the first time to a large 437 00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:16,990 now back to exploring the bazaar with 438 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:19,580 two of the most electrifying researchers 439 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:22,910 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 440 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:29,360 Lee hunting Swartz hey Tim before we 441 00:24:38,350 --> 00:24:34,490 begin I just want to inform our 442 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,360 listeners of our latest book that has 443 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:41,360 just actually come out today it is ash 444 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:46,960 stars space brothers speak and this is a 445 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,930 book about the Federation of Planets the 446 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:53,360 friendly space people who are supposed 447 00:25:01,240 --> 00:24:55,250 to be coming here to assist and help 448 00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:01,250 with our spiritual development and I 449 00:25:05,260 --> 00:25:03,140 think it's it's it's a book that I think 450 00:25:08,050 --> 00:25:05,270 a lot of people will be fascinated with 451 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:08,060 I know as some people have been overly 452 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:11,270 critical of us lately for publishing 453 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:13,790 quite a number of books on the hospital 454 00:25:19,870 --> 00:25:17,170 hostel aspect of UFOs but there are 455 00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:19,880 apparently some good guys out there as 456 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:24,260 well as negative forces just like there 457 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:28,940 are here on planet earth that's right 458 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:31,490 and we give a fair shake to both sides 459 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:34,030 the the possible hostile 460 00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:35,780 extraterrestrials and then on the 461 00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:38,420 reverse side those are like space 462 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:41,390 brothers who are here supposedly to help 463 00:25:48,430 --> 00:25:44,320 us find our way through these dark times 464 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,440 well I I know in the next couple of 465 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:50,240 weeks are in about a month we're going 466 00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:52,670 to have on our good friend at Mark 467 00:25:59,050 --> 00:25:55,790 Brinkerhoff who will bring a personal 468 00:26:01,930 --> 00:25:59,060 message from as dark now mark is not a 469 00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:01,940 channeler he actually says that he has 470 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:05,540 been on board their craft and has met 471 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:09,170 with Ashtar who is an etherion which 472 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:10,970 means that he operates most of the time 473 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:13,360 on an interdimensional or higher 474 00:26:18,670 --> 00:26:16,490 vibrational level but he has promised to 475 00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:18,680 actually give a direct message from a 476 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:21,740 star for our listeners so that's 477 00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,920 something that I think everybody will 478 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:26,000 want to 479 00:26:33,270 --> 00:26:29,630 to that evening and will will have him 480 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:33,280 on and about I think a month I believe 481 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:36,250 yep okay well let's let's get back to 482 00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:40,070 talking with Donna Seidenberg here Don 483 00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:42,440 we already have a question from one of 484 00:26:47,530 --> 00:26:43,880 our listeners so I'll just go ahead and 485 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:47,540 get right to it we've got Tom who wants 486 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:50,840 to know he wants to know the name of the 487 00:26:55,330 --> 00:26:53,390 liquid that you were taking I don't 488 00:26:57,810 --> 00:26:55,340 think that it had a kind of brand name 489 00:27:01,600 --> 00:26:57,820 and that if you you know had any idea 490 00:27:03,610 --> 00:27:01,610 what the what the ingredients were I 491 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:03,620 suppose that that would be the million 492 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:06,470 dollar question for everybody that would 493 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:08,650 be and the the only thing they refer to 494 00:27:25,390 --> 00:27:14,650 referred to it as the serum hmm and it 495 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:25,400 explained the ant sanitizer was he you 496 00:27:30,370 --> 00:27:28,460 said well what keep my sanitizer bottles 497 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:30,380 that's that's the was the thickness of 498 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:33,940 it but as far as the ingredients on the 499 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:37,490 that it was this came from it just came 500 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:39,050 from the German so I assumed it came 501 00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:43,670 from from planet planet eggs but that 502 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:46,460 they it was used for focused and 503 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,170 longevity now they now I was not too 504 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,600 bright in high school exactly I was I 505 00:28:01,390 --> 00:27:55,600 was really dumb in eyes but I graduated 506 00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:01,400 46 out of 50 and after I went through 507 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:04,580 the Edwards Air Force Base study the 508 00:28:10,810 --> 00:28:07,760 three weeks I became a different person 509 00:28:14,530 --> 00:28:10,820 hmm mark person for so one reason or 510 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:14,540 another and I I put it to the to the 511 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:20,960 serum and I put my my 84 years 83 years 512 00:28:27,820 --> 00:28:23,570 to the serum and if anyone wants to 513 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:27,830 examine me or test me or go to the 514 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:30,050 swimming pool in the morning and swim a 515 00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:33,200 mile and a half they're more than 516 00:28:38,919 --> 00:28:33,950 welcome 517 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:38,929 oh I'm not I'm not blowing smoke up 518 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:39,890 anybody 519 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:42,650 Cael I can only tell them what I did I 520 00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:44,810 could only show them what I can do now 521 00:28:51,130 --> 00:28:48,950 they can believe it or not I there 522 00:28:57,670 --> 00:28:51,140 wasn't any extraterrestrials that I met 523 00:29:02,880 --> 00:28:57,680 I I was told all this why my by my 524 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:02,890 leader buck and he changed my my 525 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:08,080 disclosure agreement so that after in 526 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:11,330 2016 I wouldn't get thrown in jail for 527 00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:14,630 telling the story and I don't I I know 528 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:17,030 that there was a fire I don't know if 529 00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:19,430 you're familiar with the military 530 00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:22,820 records fire in 1973 John and st. Louis 531 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:25,790 tell me with that yeah exactly yeah 532 00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:29,450 have you heard that well anyway my my 533 00:29:36,550 --> 00:29:32,960 records were in that fire and I have no 534 00:29:40,810 --> 00:29:36,560 I have no medical records I have I am my 535 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:40,820 dd-214 that I had when I was discharged 536 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:46,450 and they the military gave me of the 537 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:50,980 discharge discharge statement and that 538 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:54,080 so I don't know if there were other 539 00:29:59,290 --> 00:29:56,330 things going on that they didn't want to 540 00:30:01,450 --> 00:29:59,300 come out and that's why there was a fire 541 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:01,460 down there because they never did they 542 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:04,640 never did find the reason for it and it 543 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:07,250 took out a whole whole floor of military 544 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:10,430 records but anyway I'm not going to tell 545 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:12,470 somebody well they did they did it just 546 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:16,490 to cover my my military records but what 547 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:20,810 I'm saying is I I'm physically able to 548 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:24,470 do a lot of things that 80 year old 549 00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:26,770 people 83 year old people wouldn't even 550 00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:31,720 fathom my mind is as clear as a bell and 551 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:39,320 I I studied a lot of things a lot of 552 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:44,270 books I got involved in in Christopher 553 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:48,050 Columbus's reasons for coming to the 554 00:30:53,470 --> 00:30:51,290 Americas to take away all the rights of 555 00:30:56,409 --> 00:30:53,480 indigenous people in front of 556 00:30:58,330 --> 00:30:56,419 back to the church in Europe which is an 557 00:31:01,539 --> 00:30:58,340 interesting story of anybody ever wants 558 00:31:04,419 --> 00:31:01,549 to get involved in it but that's that's 559 00:31:08,049 --> 00:31:04,429 what I can say on this subject so now do 560 00:31:11,950 --> 00:31:08,059 you think that buck you're your handler 561 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:11,960 was was being upfront with you when it 562 00:31:16,419 --> 00:31:14,720 came to the explanation of what was 563 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:16,429 going on you know what what you were 564 00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:18,260 being you know given because you know I 565 00:31:25,659 --> 00:31:22,630 know a lot of times in in past military 566 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:25,669 experience experiments with servicemen 567 00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,890 they're just basically told here you 568 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:29,840 know take this or bend over take this 569 00:31:36,010 --> 00:31:33,130 shot and you don't need to know right 570 00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:36,020 yeah well I I think I think what 571 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:38,480 happened when they started with the 572 00:31:43,659 --> 00:31:41,600 study they were saying well here where 573 00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,669 we have this we're here we have this 574 00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:45,679 theorem and we're going to give it to 575 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:48,860 this guy for 21 days and this guy's 576 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,530 going to go off to the army and and well 577 00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,360 the o-net whatever are going to see him 578 00:31:58,570 --> 00:31:56,000 again as one he has a tonsillectomy 579 00:31:59,919 --> 00:31:58,580 operation over and only ons France and 580 00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:59,929 we're going to send some of the stuff 581 00:32:04,419 --> 00:32:01,760 over to him to help him out for 12 days 582 00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:04,429 and then after that we're never going to 583 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:06,950 see him again so we're not we're not 584 00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:09,049 going to know whether this guy lived to 585 00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:13,460 be 35 years old or 135 years old that 586 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:16,120 they had they had would have had to wait 587 00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:18,530 so many years down the road to see if 588 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:20,750 the stuff really worked mm-hmm and and 589 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:23,090 that's why that's why he put on my 590 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:26,809 online non-disclosure agreement he could 591 00:32:30,909 --> 00:32:28,690 have put you know like a look Oh 592 00:32:32,919 --> 00:32:30,919 government non-disclosure agreements 593 00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,929 have no expiration date on them they 594 00:32:38,049 --> 00:32:35,600 don't explain I mean they just you know 595 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:38,059 once you sign it that's yet you can't 596 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,570 you can't reveal the the secrets without 597 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:42,799 getting in big trouble 598 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:47,570 but mine minor are have expired and he 599 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:49,730 wanted though he wanted the world to 600 00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:53,090 know what he was doing and he had he had 601 00:32:57,549 --> 00:32:55,790 to wait all this time and he wasn't 602 00:33:00,400 --> 00:32:57,559 going to live that long because he was 603 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:00,410 he was getting pretty close to retiring 604 00:33:05,370 --> 00:33:04,370 and he's been in the counterintelligence 605 00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:05,380 for quite a while 606 00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:11,980 I guess but he he probably figured that 607 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:13,900 well we'll test it out and see if this 608 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:17,410 guy comes out on it well and that's 609 00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:19,510 that's it now there's a good point right 610 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:22,600 there because I would have to admit I 611 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:25,090 would be a little hesitant to take 612 00:33:31,169 --> 00:33:28,330 something that supposedly was produced 613 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:31,179 by an extraterrestrial race because I 614 00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:32,950 mean you wouldn't have any idea whether 615 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:34,660 or not this would be something that 616 00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:38,770 would work for you or just you know 617 00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:41,350 poison you or you know or cause your 618 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:44,140 brain to explode well the only thing 619 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:46,390 they explained was that they had they 620 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:49,929 had given it to lab mice for a period of 621 00:33:56,820 --> 00:33:53,289 time and none of the lab mice had any 622 00:33:59,370 --> 00:33:56,830 reactions to it and I guess a lab mouse 623 00:34:04,320 --> 00:33:59,380 is about as close to a human in that 624 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:04,330 realm as you can get so once they told 625 00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:07,750 us that off the bat and my dad not my 626 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:11,409 dad was a my dad was a person were what 627 00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:15,280 the army said you did and you didn't you 628 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:20,020 didn't really question that and he was 629 00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,810 he was sort of concerned but he figured 630 00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:24,399 that if they were going to offer it to 631 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:26,500 me in white that I didn't didn't have 632 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:27,310 much to worry about 633 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:32,409 and so I I was young I was 18 you know 634 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,090 and was dumb and I was on a new on a new 635 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:39,280 career in the army and I was excited 636 00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:43,030 about that and I and you know if if you 637 00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:45,190 volunteered for this it's like kissing 638 00:34:51,419 --> 00:34:48,790 ass with the with the leaders you know 639 00:34:56,129 --> 00:34:51,429 and they're like you for it well right 640 00:34:59,760 --> 00:34:56,139 was I was my my dd-214 will show that I 641 00:35:02,220 --> 00:34:59,770 was promoted from private e1 when I 642 00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:02,230 joined the service and I'm a staff 643 00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:05,380 sergeant in less than two years and that 644 00:35:11,849 --> 00:35:08,080 is and anybody will tell you that that 645 00:35:13,950 --> 00:35:11,859 is sort of rare and they told me that I 646 00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:13,960 would have a preferential treatment so 647 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:17,080 when I was in the army and they I was at 648 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:19,030 Orleans France 649 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:21,490 for two and a half years within they 650 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:23,740 were 60 we were 60 miles south of Paris 651 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:27,060 and I was working as a clerk typist in a 652 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:30,730 near supply control center and I was 653 00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:33,340 living the life a rally for a 20 year 654 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:37,740 old kid and that that whole thing just 655 00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:41,890 and it started in my life and it put me 656 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:44,040 on the right track 657 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:48,250 I was gonna ask on top of on top of the 658 00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:51,490 serum I guess that they they had some 659 00:35:59,940 --> 00:35:58,000 kind of was an exercise program or you 660 00:36:02,940 --> 00:35:59,950 know I saw this picture of this device 661 00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:02,950 that that you had built supposedly based 662 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:06,520 on something else do you want to explain 663 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:07,810 that a little better than I'm trying to 664 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:14,470 do right now now a spaceship has no room 665 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:17,380 for exercise machines and treadmills and 666 00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:20,710 all this other stuff and these fellows 667 00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:24,340 are you look at them and maybe they they 668 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:26,680 don't look exactly like a human but for 669 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:28,840 all practical purposes or human so they 670 00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:30,730 need exercise like everybody else did 671 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:35,320 but this is this Paul which was came off 672 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:39,630 of the spacecraft all it was was was a 673 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:43,090 four-foot that wooden dowel an inch 674 00:36:51,150 --> 00:36:48,250 round and if you go to the dollar store 675 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:51,160 there is a Dollar Tree they they sell a 676 00:36:58,650 --> 00:36:57,010 a swimming pool noodle rubber and you 677 00:37:03,540 --> 00:36:58,660 put just you take that noodle and you 678 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:03,550 put it over top the 4-foot doll and that 679 00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:05,950 cushions pushing the whole thing so that 680 00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:07,720 you could put it under your arms and 681 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:10,300 under your neck and all this and all 682 00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:12,370 you're doing is isometric exercises 683 00:37:17,490 --> 00:37:14,140 you're not you're not doing anything 684 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:17,500 physical but you're you're circulating 685 00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:22,960 your the blood in your system and I kind 686 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:25,480 of think that the the R&D didn't put 687 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:28,690 this on the market because I swear to 688 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:32,230 god this I'm telling you like I'll tell 689 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:33,010 you this is what I 690 00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:34,570 believe is true which I know it's true 691 00:37:41,490 --> 00:37:36,360 because I've use it for all these years 692 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:41,500 this this salt lower back pain when you 693 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:43,240 get up out of bed in the morning and 694 00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:45,580 your whole back as if you can't move it 695 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:48,550 hardly well this this this will these 696 00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:54,850 exercises which I made a video of will 697 00:37:59,070 --> 00:37:55,900 loosen you up 698 00:38:00,930 --> 00:37:59,080 and it'll you won't have to go to a 699 00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:00,940 doctor for operations and things like 700 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:06,070 that but it really it really works and I 701 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:07,690 mean that's why that's why I came up 702 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:09,790 with that spaceship because they used it 703 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:11,470 and that's the only thing they would 704 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:13,930 have for as an extra piece of exercise 705 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:20,250 equipment mm-hmm now it's I just I I 706 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:24,610 really would think that you would not be 707 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:30,100 the only one that they have experimented 708 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:34,210 on yeah I mean they may not have told 709 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:35,770 you but I would think that since that 710 00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:39,400 time if unless they had just like you 711 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:42,100 know just a small beaker full of this 712 00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:44,050 serum that there has to have been other 713 00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:50,310 people that has participated with this 714 00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:53,380 with this type of experiment I mean have 715 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:56,830 has since you've come forward has 716 00:39:00,660 --> 00:38:58,930 anybody come out to you and said hey 717 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:00,670 yeah you know I would do the same thing 718 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:06,550 I know nobody has said anything to me 719 00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:09,190 and it you know it's possible you know 720 00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:13,750 the only thing is with the situation of 721 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:16,900 the Planet X of spacecraft what happened 722 00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:20,170 to that I'm sure I'm sure that we can't 723 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:22,300 contact them and how is they a would you 724 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:24,010 go some more of this stuff they probably 725 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:29,110 go to you go to heck you it's something 726 00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:31,240 it's too simple you know and when things 727 00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:33,340 are too simple people avoided you know 728 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:36,790 there's it's really it's really funny 729 00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:37,680 how that works 730 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:45,040 hey Tim you know I'm thinking we've had 731 00:39:50,970 --> 00:39:46,810 a fellow on the show here 732 00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:50,980 with kitchen yeah yeah yeah yeah and 733 00:39:56,070 --> 00:39:54,430 he's written an entire book about the 734 00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:56,080 people have had contact of course with 735 00:40:02,040 --> 00:39:58,980 the aliens and they've been given 736 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:02,050 certain kinds of food to eat in certain 737 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:05,770 kinds of a drink and and so forth so in 738 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:11,350 that and that says it's not it's not 739 00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:13,630 without precedent except that of course 740 00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:15,220 there as far as I can remember in his 741 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:17,430 book I don't think that there's been any 742 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:20,290 military intervention or it was passed 743 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,210 off by a you know when someone in the 744 00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:27,040 government status or CIA or or 745 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:27,670 what-have-you 746 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:30,970 right right with the universe the size 747 00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:33,760 of it the size of the universe 748 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:35,620 you're not going to question what's out 749 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:38,170 there and anything could be out there so 750 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:40,450 I could never say that there's not not 751 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:41,980 anything like this out there because I'm 752 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:43,630 sure there is there's probably things 753 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:49,590 out there that we'd be amazed yet but I 754 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:52,810 I haven't heard of anybody else doing it 755 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:55,090 I in and I still think that then once 756 00:41:00,030 --> 00:40:57,790 they got into the study they figured out 757 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:00,040 well we're not going to be able to find 758 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:02,410 the results of sweaty in three weeks 759 00:41:07,470 --> 00:41:05,560 because the the exercising I was doing 760 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:07,480 that you know that was that would have 761 00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:10,570 been easy to find out but the serum that 762 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,150 was altogether different and and they 763 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:15,040 were looking they were looking at to 764 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:17,020 section and we're looking at for focus 765 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:19,420 what it did to your mind so I know what 766 00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:22,570 it did in my mind it gave me a brain for 767 00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:24,280 that I've been using for the last eighty 768 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:28,950 three years and it's and it's given me a 769 00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:31,810 body that I can still use for 83 years 770 00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:35,110 from the longevity part of it so I know 771 00:41:40,410 --> 00:41:38,470 what did I know what it did for me but I 772 00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:40,420 can't say that it would do that for 773 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:44,620 everybody or or whatever or but but and 774 00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:46,930 I can't I don't know whether or not they 775 00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:49,180 could have could reproduced it and then 776 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:50,920 that way they weren't able to reproduce 777 00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:53,590 it they had they they had a formula they 778 00:41:59,580 --> 00:41:56,560 were planet planned X was going to give 779 00:42:00,330 --> 00:41:59,590 a little formula to make it but I don't 780 00:42:02,330 --> 00:42:00,340 know 781 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:02,340 they were able to figure that out or not 782 00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:05,350 now we have a question from one of our 783 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,640 listeners David Cook 784 00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:09,760 and he asked have done have you ever 785 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:13,600 been sick said since taking the serum so 786 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:16,390 all these years you know have you had 787 00:42:20,490 --> 00:42:18,390 any problems I know you said you had 788 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:20,500 tonsillectomy when you were in France 789 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:23,830 but other than that I had con Selecta 790 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:27,040 mean in in France and I had prostate 791 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:30,730 cancer uh ten years ago mm-hmm and the 792 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:34,260 prostate cancer was eradicated with the 793 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:40,410 da Vinci robot arthroscopic machine and 794 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:45,040 they got they took out all the prostate 795 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:48,700 gland so they took out all the prostate 796 00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:53,080 cancer and so I haven't I haven't 797 00:43:01,280 --> 00:42:57,550 anything through my lifetime it was 798 00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:01,290 pretty good I'm I played I played 799 00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:05,560 organized softball with kids in my 800 00:43:13,710 --> 00:43:09,190 sixties and I mean this was 18 17 18 19 801 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:13,720 year old kids so I hear I've had them 802 00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:16,570 I've had a real good real good active 803 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:18,940 life mmm which is still going on I go I 804 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:20,950 go swimming there's an hour a day and 805 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:23,710 and I do my shooting hoops and I'm a 806 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:26,410 pure shooter at all like that one video 807 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:31,750 that I said a lot and but that simple 808 00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:36,580 that simple exercises with the with the 809 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:40,270 bar that's something to to give the 810 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,090 people that there's very helpful I mean 811 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,280 it not sell I'm not selling anything 812 00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:47,920 just can I just given it to him and 813 00:43:57,780 --> 00:43:52,060 that's that's why I think R&D was sort 814 00:44:00,210 --> 00:43:57,790 of leery of doing it so and now somebody 815 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:00,220 somebody from the chat asked how long 816 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:02,110 did you take the serum and they said 817 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:04,390 just once but you actually you you took 818 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:07,150 it once a day for a 21 day period 819 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:09,700 correct and then I took it once a day 820 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:11,370 for 821 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:13,410 days when I had my tonsils acta me 822 00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:17,010 because I quit I when I took it in in 823 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:19,350 France they injected it in my hip 824 00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:23,280 because I had I couldn't swallow mm-hmm 825 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:26,340 and I couldn't swallow for 12 days and 826 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:30,050 so they get they gave it to me my hip 827 00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:33,930 for 21 days it Edwards and then I had it 828 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:37,830 for 12 days in Orland France and now was 829 00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:42,750 as I didn't after that I didn't hmm all 830 00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:45,780 right well we're coming up to about 831 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,100 three minutes before the the show in so 832 00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:52,560 you know after after you've been on the 833 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,600 show now dawn maybe maybe we will have 834 00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:56,880 some people come forward who may have 835 00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:02,160 been part of similar experiments but why 836 00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:04,020 don't you let our audience know about 837 00:45:07,610 --> 00:45:06,060 where they can find out more about you 838 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:07,620 online I know you said you have some 839 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:11,520 videos so I want to tell people where 840 00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:32,250 Facebook and my email is heinz h GI n ze 841 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:33,470 [Music] 842 00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:42,210 81 at yahoo.com and I can and if anyone 843 00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:45,680 is interested in looking at it I've got 844 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:48,840 three videos but that they're just 845 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:53,490 they're just nothing professional but 846 00:45:59,090 --> 00:45:55,650 the well the basketball one is 847 00:46:02,660 --> 00:45:59,100 professional but idiot it shows my 848 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:02,670 activity thing but like I say if there's 849 00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:05,610 anyone out there that wants to Lester J 850 00:46:12,830 --> 00:46:09,680 on me for memory and physical that 851 00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:12,840 whatever they're welcome to it and they 852 00:46:21,470 --> 00:46:15,630 can they can email me you know and they 853 00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:21,480 could come and do it but my my blood 854 00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,620 work is the only thing 855 00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:27,680 that it's it's poor my blood work is 856 00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:30,350 perfect and that's really the only thing 857 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:33,200 I can point you in my physical part 858 00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:44,590 all right well we got less than a minute 859 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:49,580 to go here so Tim yeah well let's remind 860 00:46:58,660 --> 00:46:55,330 the people who go to our YouTube channel 861 00:47:02,800 --> 00:46:58,670 through UFOs secret files I think we 862 00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:02,810 have probably close to 400 interviews up 863 00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:06,470 there now and we we continue have on 864 00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:09,710 some of the most fascinating a guest in 865 00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:12,920 the world of the UFOs and the paranormal 866 00:47:19,810 --> 00:47:16,790 and I think tonight that's all I have my 867 00:47:23,350 --> 00:47:19,820 toast and take some serum and helped her 868 00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:23,360 we have a song grand life and thank you 869 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:26,630 God my coming on program it was a it was 870 00:47:32,890 --> 00:47:30,650 a real real treat and now when you see 871 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,900 your Elliot if you see any aliens out 872 00:47:39,310 --> 00:47:34,880 there say hello for us and grab us a 873 00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:39,320 bottle of serum and go to my go to my 874 00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:41,480 facebook page and my complete story is 875 00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:44,750 on on Facebook all right thank you so 876 00:47:48,910 --> 00:47:46,670 much and again well thank you for having 877 00:47:51,820 --> 00:47:48,920 me on gentlemen I really appreciate it 878 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:51,830 you've got that be thank you yeah the 879 00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:53,690 night Tina good night Peter good night 880 00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,910 Alan good night Tim good night Carol 881 00:48:01,880 --> 00:47:58,160 good night to all our listeners out 882 00:48:04,310 --> 00:48:01,890 there in podcast land 883 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:04,320 you've been listening to exploring the 884 00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:08,310 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley aunty 885 00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:11,550 Swartz they're taking back the night by 886 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,100 jetting non-stop across the cosmos in 887 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:17,040 search of the truly bizarre and totally 888 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:20,850 unexplained with you as their cold 889 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:23,330 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 890 00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,810 10:00 p.m. Eastern on the K cor digital 891 00:48:31,610 --> 00:48:29,040 radio 892 00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:31,620 for 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